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Date: Tue, 12 Jul 94 08:37:11 PDT
From: Info-Hams Mailing List and Newsgroup <info-hams@ucsd.edu>
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Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #779
To: Info-Hams
Info-Hams Digest Tue, 12 Jul 94 Volume 94 : Issue 779
Today's Topics:
"Comma" machine
A good Antenna for a 2m Repeater
Amateur calls on auto license plates?
BIOEFFECTS 2 OF 9
BIOEFFECTS 5 OF 9
BIOEFFECTS 9 OF 9
CW - THE ONLY MODE!
Does CW as a pre-req
Does CW as a pre-req REALLY Work?
HTX202/404 Mods?
Is there an ATV newsgroup?
Need help with first Shortwave radio purchase
Opening up Kenwood battery pack
Postal/ZIP Codes to Grids ????
Re: Does CW as a pre-req REALLY Work?
RE:garfield.catt.ncsu.edu
Weather Radio freqs?
YCCC DX Packet Cluster
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Date: 12 Jul 1994 00:04:50 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!geraldo.cc.utexas.edu!astro.as.utexas.edu!oo7@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: "Comma" machine
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
RICHARD_BOLT-110794093910@bolt.gsfc.nasa.gov says:
>One home TV wipes out on all channels when this COMMA machine is on!
>Removes color. Other TVs do not see it. comma & 4 seconds, agn comma.
>(..--..). Not on any ham freq. HF nor 2 nor 6! Abt 15 min at beg. of ever
>hr & 15 min at Half hr.
>Poss. Air Force transmitting station 2 miles away? Dick W1DGA
I heard this today on 15m. At one point it was on 21030, right on
top of a pile-up for TN0CW. It shifted around over half an hour.
This was around 4 pm CDT, I think. Next time I hear it I will try
to get a rough bearing on it. I'm in Austin TX.
It's not quite a CW comma, but I recognized it from that description,
i.e. it is close to _ _ . . _ _ not . . _ _ . . as mistyped by
the referenced poster.
The last time I heard anything remotely like this (raspy periodic
stuff in the ham bands) was at the start of Desert Storm, when it
was much louder, and heard equally well by the station in the U.K.
that I was working at the time. Completely different pattern but....
Derek "You Heard It Here First" Wills (AA5BT, G3NMX)
Department of Astronomy, University of Texas,
Austin TX 78712. (512-471-1392)
oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu
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Date: 12 Jul 94 14:59:44 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: A good Antenna for a 2m Repeater
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
We are trying to identify a good antenna for use in a 2m repeater. The
antenna will be about 200ft up in a rather windy area. We would rather
find a dual band 2/440 antenna, but will use separates if needed. The old
Hy-gain 270 type fiberglass antennas were great, but they are not made any
longer. We were using a Diamond of some type, but it did not survive more
than 2 years. If the antenna is a dual-band antenna, the 2m portion must have
at least a 3dbd gain figure (db compared to a dipole), with a 6dbd being the
target. Cost is not too much of a factor.
I would be interested in hearing from any of you with a similar setup - good
experiences, bad experiences, or any other comments.
**************************************************************************
* Michael Ruhrdanz, Systems Analyst * BITNET: IANR003@UNLVM *
* University of Nebraska * INTERNET: IANR003@UNLVM.UNL.EDU *
* (402) 472-5236 * *
**************************************************************************
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Date: 12 Jul 1994 00:20:56 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!unixg.ubc.ca!quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca!tribune.usask.ca!canopus.cc.umanitoba.ca!umthoma5@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Amateur calls on auto license plates?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Doesn't an amateur have special priveliges in emergency situations in the
states if he/she has their call on their plate?
I once asked about this for Maintoba and was told that if your vehicle had
the call sign as the license, it gave you certain priveliges during
emergencies or accidents, much like a doctor that has a special plate with
their MD number on it. I'm not sure exactly what these priveliges are but
this is what I was told. Also, in Manitoba, you can't get any information
from the DMV using a plate number unless you have a signed note from the
owner of that vehicle allowing you to get information. I haven't figured
out what purpose this serves but it manages to keep at least one person
employed!
just my 1.4162 cents...
--
Craig Thomasson VE4 CET "If your parents didn't have kids,
umthoma5@cc.umanitoba.ca chances are, you won't either."
Model Railroading... Amateur Radio... Computers... Engineering...
More fun than any human being should be allowed to endure...
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Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 01:25:00 GMT
From: usc!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!ub!acsu.buffalo.edu!ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu!@@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
Subject: BIOEFFECTS 2 OF 9
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
The Chairman had not been consulted nor advised as to Mr. Price's
appointment as Board Liaison until April, 1992, when a copy of a letter
that was sent to an amateur expressing concern regarding the safety of
amateur radio operation arrived at the Chairman's desk over the
signature of Mr. Price, speaking for the Committee. The Chairman voiced
his objections to Jay Holladay, W6EJJ, concerning this unilateral action
on the part of Mr. Price, as being an inappropriate role for the Board
Liaison to take without consultation with at the least the Chairman of
the Committee. The Chairman heard nothing further regarding this
matter.
In April, 1992, QST published a photograph and description of an antenna
disguised as a curtain rod as a "cute" item to show the cooperative
effort of a ham and his new bride. This was not accompanied by any
disclaimer as to the inadvisability of the risks of the operation of such
a station due to potential bio-effects issues. When the Committee
objected to this, a letter from the Chairman was published in QST with
the headline "Indoor Antenna: RF Hazard?", with the question mark
implying to the Committee that there was editorial doubt as to the
veracity of the observations expressed in the letter on behalf of the
Committee. The last word on this matter was had by the original
operator, W6REF in a letter headlined "Bioeffects Overkill," criticizing
the stance of the Chairman as being unreasonable because the power
levels being generated at this installation were not known. Such an
editorial disregard for the basic tenets that the Committee has
espoused seems rather cavalier and inappropriate. The less than subtle
captioning of each of these letters, and the lack of editorial insight
into the entire issue was very disturbing.
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Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 01:27:00 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!ub!acsu.buffalo.edu!ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu!oopdavid@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: BIOEFFECTS 5 OF 9
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
4. The complete lack of consultation on the appointment of Board
Liaison was documented, including the absence of the common
courtesy of a formal letter from anyone at the League regarding
these appointments.
5. Regret and dismay was expressed to the Chairman regarding these
shortcomings and it was stated that these events should not have
occurred.
At the close of this meeting, a positive feeling of trust and
understanding between the parties appeared to have been established,
and Mr. Maxwell expressed a clear desire to improve the communications
between the League and the Chairman and members of the Bio-Effects
Committee. It is clear however, that this feeling was not reciprocated by
others at the League.
On March 1, 1994, the Chairman and the members of the Committee who
signed the independent citizen's filing received a FedEx letter, with your
stamped signature advising us of your distress in the entire matter of
our filing. In the letter you made several statements which strike the
members of the Committee as deserving of comment.
While the members of the Committee have no problem with the desire of
the League to appear to apeak with one voice on matters before
governmental agencies, it is absolutely clear to all except for you, that
our filing was "as individuals, and not as representatives of the League".
As evidence to support the contention that it is a rather peculiar view
to see this filing as a separate voice of the League, is the report by
Fred Maia in his W5YI Report of February 1, 1994, clearly restating that
these members were speaking as individuals, and not as the ARRL Bio-
Effects Committee itself, nor on behalf of the League.
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Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 01:30:00 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!ub!acsu.buffalo.edu!ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu!oopdavid@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: BIOEFFECTS 9 OF 9
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
The members of the ARRL Bio-Effects Committee plan to continue to
contribute to an understanding by amateur radio operators of the issues
relating to the potential bio-hazards of our activities as radio
operators, and as such will remain active in our continued review of
information and research in this field as it becomes available. We plan
to remain available to any and all amateur radio operators who seek our
counsel. We further plan to continue to speak out in matters that
concern us as individuals and as private citizens as they pertain to our
deep and fundamental interest in amateur radio.
We will however, not allow our names to be subject to the political
machinations and narrow views of individuals who seek to use us for their
own aims or as "window dressing" for you or the League. It would be
unfortunate for all amateur radio operators to suffer the
repercussions of such a short-sighted view of things, particularly when
they may result in long-term negative consequences to amateur radio as
a whole. There has been a loss of confidence on the part of the members
of the Committee in that you, as President of the League, are clearly not
concerned with the continued successful functioning of this Committee,
unfettered by extra-scientific and parochial influences. In addition, it
is felt that your actions have subjected both the scientific as well as
personal integrity of the members to serious compromise. There appears
to be no reason that individuals who serve as unpaid volunteers to the
League should be subject to such abuse.
We have considered the consequences of our resignation both as
individuals and as a Committee as a whole. We stand together united in a
common view that you do not see importance of this Committee as
originally constituted, that under your leadership, the League has
ignored the important resources that the Committee has to offer to all
of amateur radio, and that you personally fail to understand the issues
of personal integrity that this entire situation has raised.
Therefore, it is with the deepest of regrets that we find that we must
submit our resignations as the ARRL Bio-Effects Committee forthwith.
[signatures of all members by Chairman Shulman}
cc: Fried Heyn, WA6WZO
Jay Holladay, W6EJJ
Jim Maxwell, W6CF
Tod Olson, K0TO
David Sumner, K1ZZ
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Date: 11 Jul 1994 18:12:06 GMT
From: thecourier.cims.nyu.edu!longlast.cs.nyu.edu!jackson@nyu.arpa
Subject: CW - THE ONLY MODE!
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
|> I'm not sure yet if it is a
|> limitation on the computers part to produce clean transitions at this
|> rate or if my brain is just not primed to comprehend the patterns at
|> this speed yet. Any opinions?
|> 73, Russ WD0FTF (soon /AA)
Hiya Russ,
You didn't mention anything about your sound generator. Are
you using the speaker? I use SuperMorse 4.04 (I think) with a
ProAudio Spectrum 16 and the sound is REAL clean. Not just
beeps, but tones.
Which leads me to this. I haven't been studying for some
time, and while visiting Battle Creek, Michigan from 7/5 through
7/10, we had several tornados, especially on one day. Just before
breaking into the tv programs, the local tv station played ---.. at about
5wpm mixed in with the program audio and then broke for a report.
What does that translate to and what does it mean?
Many thanks.
--
Steven Jackson, Assistant to the Chair of Computer Science
Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences, New York University
251 Mercer Street, NY NY 10012
Work <-- (forwarded) Home
jackson@cs.nyu.edu, jcksnste@acfcluster.nyu.edu, sjackson@cjbbs.com
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 12:43:56 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!lerc.nasa.gov!kira.cc.uakron.edu!malgudi.oar.net!witch!doghouse!jsalemi@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Does CW as a pre-req
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <40.7747.2426@channel1.com>, Alan Wilensky (alan.wilensky@channel1.com) writes:
>JS>Because the IRU treaty that governs ham radio operations worldwide
>JS>forbids it for now. Until the treaty is changed, knowledge of morse
>JS>code is required to access frequencies below 30MHz.
>
>Are you sure that the ITU treaty is a binding one and that the USA has
>no clout? BTW, how much foreign aid goes to the ITU member counties that
>insist on morse code?
Binding, yes. Never said the USA doesn't have any clout, and the
subject may well come up at the next WARC meeting in '97 (I think it
is). But the FCC has shown no inclination to change the code
requirement, either, so who knows what will happen then.
>
>Are you the fellow who writes computer articles for PC world?
>
Nope -- I write for PC Magazine among others.
73...joe
----------
Joe Salemi, KR4CZ Internet: jsalemi@doghouse.win.net
Compuserve: 72631,23 FidoNet: 1:109/136 MCI Mail: 433-3961
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 12:31:23 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!lerc.nasa.gov!kira.cc.uakron.edu!malgudi.oar.net!witch!doghouse!jsalemi@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Does CW as a pre-req REALLY Work?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
In article <2vpr3g$ac4@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>, Michael P. Deignan (md@pstc3.pstc.brown.edu) writes:
>The concept of self-testing, in any environment, is a clear conflict of
>interest.
>
>Hams testing hams included.
>
Well, sorry you're so cynical about a system that's been working and
working well for 10 years. Have you ever actually been a VE? I am,
and I know that the vast majority are honest and care about what they
do.
And don't forget that even the FCC isn't beyond "selling licenses," --
remember the callsign fiasco a number of years ago? ANY testing
system can have bad apples in it. Instead of advocating trashing the
whole system, why not join it and work inside it to make sure it's
honest? It's not going to change anytime soon.
73...joe
----------
Joe Salemi, KR4CZ Internet: jsalemi@doghouse.win.net
Compuserve: 72631,23 FidoNet: 1:109/136 MCI Mail: 433-3961
------------------------------
Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 02:24:32 GMT
From: usc!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!zip.eecs.umich.edu!yeshua.marcam.com!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac.ecs.csus.edu!csus.edu!netcom.@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
Subject: HTX202/404 Mods?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Ther are NO mods for the HTX202. This radio's front end only lets in
signals between 144 to 148 MHz anyway.
The only reason other radios have mods is that those radio's controller
firmware was written to allow those mods. The HTX202's firmware
doesn't have any code to sense the presense or absense of programming
diodes, and thus is not modifiable.
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Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 20:24:33 GMT
From: psinntp!isc-newsserver!rit!sunsrvr6!jdc@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Is there an ATV newsgroup?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
How about it guys? We got rec.radio.amateur.everything-else...
How about an ATV newsgroup? Any interest?
73...Jim N2VNO
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Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 02:12:38 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!yeshua.marcam.com!news.kei.com!ub!freenet.buffalo.edu!au831@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: Need help with first Shortwave radio purchase
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Hello Mike , Name here is jim and I hold amateur call N2ETE. Been a
swl for 22 to 24 years and my advise would be to get the Sangean ATS-
803a ans d a and a mfj indoor active antenna. unless you have
room outdoors, put up a long wire antenna. This I feel would be a
good start since you won't have to spend much money and if you lose
interest (which after you start up is highly unlikely!!), you won't
be out much money. If you have further questions, E-mail me, or
write me at jim laughlan 340 second street Youngstown, n.y. 14174.
73's de jim n2ete
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Date: Tue, 12 Jul 1994 00:05:30 GMT
From: psinntp!isc-newsserver!ultb!jdc3538@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Opening up Kenwood battery pack
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I'd like to replace the NiCad cells in the battery pack for
my Kenwood TH-77A. It's the standard PB-6 pack. There are
no screws visible, and none under the "Kenwood" label on the
side. An experimental pry along the seams yielded nothing.
Is this a lost cause? It looks like the entire thing was glued.
At least Radio Shack had the decency to use screws. Any
ideas?
73...Jim
N2VNO
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Date: 12 Jul 94 14:54:44 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: Postal/ZIP Codes to Grids ????
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
I would certainly appreciate any leads that the assembled multitude can give
me concerning the availability of software/data-base for converting postal/
ZIP codes to Maidenhead grid location.
Tnx in advance
73 de Bob w3otc@amsat.org
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Date: 12 Jul 1994 00:24:49 GMT
From: src.dec.com!src.dec.com!ira@decwrl.dec.com
Subject: Re: Does CW as a pre-req REALLY Work?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
...but we don't ask brain surgeons to know anything about Phrenology, do we?
Or lawyers anything about medieval English case law. As technology and times
change, so do the requirements for entry into a field.
Regards,
Ira
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Date: 11 Jul 1994 20:46:10 -0400
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!nigel.msen.com!heifetz.msen.com!garnet.msen.com!not-for-mail@network.ucsd.edu
Subject: RE:garfield.catt.ncsu.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
rmike@FNALO.FNAL.GOV writes:
> I was able to get to the login part of that server,but do I need
> to join or send a form to the garfield server?
> Thanks.
> 73's
>
>
> Mike/N9SAV
> NIARC SPLIT-146.580R/147.660T
Just a plateful of lasagna! :)
Vince.
--
======================================================================
Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@msen.com flame-mail: /dev/null
220+ Coordinator Michigan Area Repeater Council
# include <std/disclaimers.h>
======================================================================
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Date: 11 Jul 1994 18:54:09 GMT
From: thecourier.cims.nyu.edu!longlast.cs.nyu.edu!jackson@nyu.arpa
Subject: Weather Radio freqs?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
|> 162.44 162.5 There are 4 specific weather channels that I know of and I think
|> there are more but my ref is at work.
|>
|> William Vaughn vaughnwt@olympus.net "Just plain Bill."
also 162.475 and 162.55
--
Steven Jackson, Assistant to the Chair of Computer Science
Courant Institute of Mathematical Sciences, New York University
251 Mercer Street, NY NY 10012
Work <-- (forwarded) Home
jackson@cs.nyu.edu, jcksnste@acfcluster.nyu.edu, sjackson@cjbbs.com
------------------------------
Date: 12 Jul 94 13:10:11 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: YCCC DX Packet Cluster
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
Does anyone have the scoop on the New England YCCC Packet Cluster?
It's been down since the end of last week when we experienced some
severe thunderstorms here in New England.
73,
Scott
--
Scott Ginsburg Voice: 508-436-3836
Wellfleet Communications Internet: ginsburg@wellfleet.com
2 Federal St. Packet: WA2CJT@K1UGM
Billerica, MA 01821
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Date: Mon, 11 Jul 1994 20:28:50 GMT
From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!news.umbc.edu!eff!news.kei.com!ddsw1!indep1!clifto@network.ucsd.edu
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
References <Csnn3B.7s1@acsu.buffalo.edu>, <2vppl4$8l2@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>, <Anthony_Pelliccio-100794225547@tonto-slip15.cis.brown.edu>o
Subject : Re: ARRL BIO-EFFECTS RESIGNATIONSGNS
In article <Anthony_Pelliccio-100794225547@tonto-slip15.cis.brown.edu> Anthony_Pelliccio@brown.edu (Tony Pelliccio) writes:
>I find this interesting but not surprising. So the ARRL is now in the same
>boat as tobacco companies. Hmm... makes me wonder if I'll renew in
>November.
As a smoker, I dislike your comparison. At least the tobacco companies
have done something on my behalf that I wanted them to do.
Seriously, though, I didn't see anything that said ARRL suppressed,
modified or ignored any of the Committee's findings, which seem to be the
main accusations against tobacco companies. All I saw was that the
Committee wasn't consulted prior to the reply deadline for the NPRM, and
that it appears (strongly, IMHO) that punitive action was taken by ARRL
when the Committee replied to the NPRM as individuals and without ARRL
permission.
--
Optimists say, "The glass is half full."
Cliff Sharp Pessimists say, "It's half empty."
WA9PDM We realists say, "Before I decide,
clifto@indep1.chi.il.us tell me what's in the glass."
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End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #779
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